This example shows a 1 5/8" bore in the 13" barrel. From its inception circa 1878 to the early 20th century, the Lyle gun was an effective naval tool. Use on personal social media accounts, provided the individuals are not promoting themselves commercially. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Dubbed Lyles Life Saving Gun, it was a very important contribution to sea-faring communities, especially in a time when much trade and travel was conducted via waterway. 5636) here is another example, http://www.classic-firearms.co.uk/antique-classic-section-582-firearms.html. This slow introduction into commercial and military markets earned much confidence in the rockets, and by 1922, their use was prolific. The example offered is a classic of this type of line throwing. As an aside, anyone who has ever fired a 1" pistol will know that the recoil would rip that small stud off (there is only one BTW) after one or two shots. Here is a link https://archive.org/stream/plasticsurgeryof00gilluoft#page/254/mode/2up I leave this here in case it is of any future use Lucasdealmeidasm (talk) 10:30, 1 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply], The purpose of the link to Firearm is really for people who do not know what "firearm" means, ie a hand portable gun. 3 photos new British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott 'No2-MkI' Flare/Signal Pistol. It was ironical to them, though the joke was lost on the English who had long stopped using the term crap//. By downloading or embedding any image, you agree to the terms and conditions of the IWM Non Commercial Licence, including your use of the attribution statement specified by IWM. Given the number of people who collect flare guns it is amazing that there is not more written on the subject. 20069. Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. The entire lot for only $95.00 (View Picture), 22157 RED FLARE PARACHUTE SIGNAL- KILGORE #52 - P52 PISTOL PROJECTED PARACHUTE RED FLARE DISTRESS SIGNAL APPROVED BY U.S. COAST GUARD 160.024/2/4, manufactured by the Kilgore Dorporation, Toone, TN, division of International Flare Signal . is ink stamped on the thin aluminum case of the flare signal The short aluminum cartridge case headstamp identifies the maker and patent info along with date of March 1989, and expiration date of September 1992 is ink stamped on side. The leading option was a short cannon of sorts, known as the Lyle Gun, which fired a 19-pound tethered projectile that sat on the muzzle. Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol By \'Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. May be of some relevance, considering the extensive description of the injury. The pattern #179997 is noted on the frame. This riot gun is one of several patterns which have seen service with the British Army, most notably during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland. Usually comprised entirely of volunteers, the crews, while brave, often lacked training or expertise with equipment such as the Lyle gun. Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.50.187 (talk) 07:40, 8 May 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply], I have corrected the erroneous caption on the British pistol, that the stud was for attaching the pistol to a vehicle or aircraft because it was not. The rocket is inserted into the barrel, and a impulse-ignition cartridge is inserted into the breech of the gun. Information- click here. No lid. The pistol is based on the Webley & Scott brass flare pistol, with a steel barrel extension to take a rocket that would propel a wire over distance. M37A2 double red star (3); M38A1 double yellow star (1); M38A2 double yellow star (2); M39A2 double green star (1); M43A1 single red star (1); M43A2 single red star (2); M45A2 single green star (2); M53A2 yellow tracer-yellow star and red star (1); M57A1 red tracer double red star (1); M57A2 red tracer double red star (2). The unsanded stock has a mellow old oiled patina, but there is a missing chip on the left side along the barrel channel. It was so successful that in 1938, a new act made it a requirement for all ships over 80 tons or 50 feet in length. These guns were used by the Royal Navy and other military units during WW1. Sign me up to the gunstar.co.uk newsletter, Send me offers and promotions from third parties. Stenciled on both sides: BL: 36.6cms Not sure it especially due to gun control, maybe more that they are easy to carry. etc. This is a set that was issued but never used. Surprisingly still functional. Not eligible for payment with Paypal or Amazon. Calibre: 1.5, Webley Schermuly Riot Gun, launcher, grenade, moving barrel. William Schermuly was born in 1857 going to sea on HMS Warspite and a succession of other ships after. This pistol set represents a very unique piece of nautical history, and would complement any collection of nautical or WWII artifacts. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 08:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply], Maybe add a link to the hunter's signal for more insight? Despite his success at the exposition, Schermuly saw virtually no interest in his invention. His rockets would propel grapnel hooks, which were used by U.S. Rangers on D-Day. All subscriptions are optional, and can be terminated at any time. Handguns This WWII line throwing gun is also rare, as most known variations have the original flaregun round butt on the frame. Not to mention, that crews were not available in every town. Books on It is a terrifying thought to be so close to shore, but trapped aboard a ship disintegrating with every crash of the waves. The Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus (SPRA) fired a short blank cartridge which ejected the rocket, the rocket then ignited and propelled the line to the target ship, shore or person in distress. This is a pair of extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistols fitted with extra long barrel extensions. Breech end of the barrel has British Broad Arrow property marking ink stamped, so this was likely used by the Royal Navy or RNLI, probably circa WW2 to 1970s. There were numerous signal flares, various uses for projected lines, and perhaps most pleasing to the inventor, several ways to aid seamen in peril on the sea, such as lifeboat distress signals and self-inflating life rafts that automatically fired rocket propelled lines into the water so that the crew could pull themselves aboard. Firearms with fascinating histories such as this abound in our firearms auctions, and the 2018 June Regional Firearms Auction is no exception. Robert Shackleton outfitted one on the Endurance, and other famous explorers gave their glowing endorsements. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.194.127.112 (talk contribs) . Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. information about ordering firearms from us! Your last viewed and saved ads will appear here, Your last viewed and saved searches will appear here, Please select a location from the drop-down list. Webley Schermuly 12bore Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H 295 US$355/333. Holsters, A handsome example of the classic military single shot flintlock pistol, albeit lacking specific identification. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. Have them checked by a competent gunsmith Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. hello: were the 1870 snider cavalry carbines rare with checkered stock and engraved sidelock? I am not sure what the purpose of the article Firearm (tool) is but in this context someone who did not know might be think that the distinction between firearms and guns is that the former is not used to kill people! Beautiful AYA No4 12 Bore Side by Side Shotgun. I have 2 of these for sale, both in used but good well looked after condition. This is a scarce, commercial proofed British No. The wire could be attached to a cable to help transfer people from ship to ship or shore to ship. Carried in a case along with its rope and launcher, this looked like a giant, mounted bottle rocket and unfortunately, utilized a cardboard-type paper case. Very scarce and no information found after a diligent search of everything I could think of. This page is not available in other languages. Catalogs whole: L: 82.2cms To be rescued, one would pray they had just beached next to a town with such a crew that was also equipped with a Lyle gun. As to the rest, an iconic fire that destroys a major landmark in a Swiss town and has an enormously well-known song written about it - that's notability. a FFL dealer in your area. Arms Collectors This is a 37mm cartridge with the case about 1 1/8 long and overall length of 7 1/8. A line firing gun, as opposed to a rocket, would take care of many of his issues: it fired instantaneously and made aiming easier, its projectiles would be less effected by wind and less prone to water damage. Kite launching rockets deployed emergency radio aerial antennae. Still, the unit was compact, easy to set up, and is said to have a range of approximately 285 meters. Gvjschermuly@gmail.com thanks. Just the thing to spice up your flare gun collection. here for telephone contact information. His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus Ltd Rocket flare firing gun 1 Inch Flare/Very/signal Pistol. This is a very rare example of an Imperial Japanese Navy double barrelled 28mm Flare/ Signal pistol.. 745. 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Bayonets It was reborn many times with the demands of the Second World War. Not shown are a noise flash round and another flare with incorrect end cap include as freebies. Downloading audio-visual for non-commercial offline listening or viewing. This piece bears the inventor's name and patt No 503324. FFL holders often charge a small fee for handling these transfers, as well as D 1461 - D 1461 Click here for more information. Upper photos show the gun for sale; lower photo shows a different gun with a rocket so you can see what they look like. (see Marsa Telamt battle on vikipedia). JC Militaria Ltd. 3 photos. Not to mention that Schermuly also saw immense benefit in the visibility of a rocket being fired toward shore. You may download material from this site for your own personal use only, Winchesters, Lugers, Smith and Wesson, Colts, Antique Guns, Modern Guns, Firearms, Swords, Ammunition, Militaria. Description: Serial #10950, 25mm, 5 1/2" barrel with a very good bore that is dark and frosted for the last 3 inches near the bell-mouth muzzle. After all, aiming for shore requires much less precision than aiming for a boat, and lines fired inland might even be aided by the wind and enjoy a greater range. This example shows the less common fluid filled clinometer level. The level shows the proper elevation to hold the flare gun when it is used as a line thrower. 1 Mark I signal pistol with a shoulder stock, or the No. We The word Schermuly is synonymous with an illumination parachute flare but where does it come from? For example https://lik-o-dil-es.blogspot.com/2018/02/15-mm-signalnye-patrony-so-strelyayushchim-mekhanizmom-signal-ohotnika.html --Estimata698 (talk) 17:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]. ( Sn. Search WEBLEY SCHERMULY LINE GUN / FLARE PISTOL Webley Schermuly 1inch caliber line gun / flare pistol. Tweckyspat would be interested in contacting you or your Dad re your connection to Schermuly. There are also stories of attaching a grappling hook of sorts to it and firing it over barbed wire so that it could be more easily pulled away. For his contributions, most line throwing guns are known as Lyle guns to this day. Please see our. militaria page, Collectible particular Line gun. However, to equip each ship with a Lyle gun or similar device would prove exceedingly expensive and take up space and weight, two precious commodities on a fully crewed cargo ship. William Schermuly still envisioned a simpler device that eliminated faults in his design, which was not very durable, prone to cross winds, and took 5-10 seconds to ignite. It had to be large enough to carry adequate propellant but not large enough to excessively increase the weight or be effected too much my wind. 450ONO No more results - here are some we think you might like. William Schermuly was a seaman & inventor born in 1857 of Dutch origin. (Broomhandle). This is a very rare example of an Imperial Japanese Navy double barrelled 28mm Flare/ Signal pistol. WW1 Era German Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. 10/25/2022 However, despite its simplicity, low cost, and effectives (so easy a young child could use it) the concept was not adopted until 1929 by the International Conference for Saving of Life at Sea Treaty (SOLAS). UPDATE: 4/22/2012 This gun isn't for sale on Gunbroker any longer, but this gun is Steven Johnson has a page on William Schermuly and his inventions. He had served aboard vessels at sea and knew of how many lives were lost each year due to shipwrecks. These were used with the International Flare Signal and Kilgore Model 52 flare guns, and probably all the other heavy 37mm flare guns with barrels about 8 inches long. D 1460 - D Flare Pistol 26. By 1887 he was developing ideas for ship-based rescue lines, and by 1897 he was exhibiting his Schermuly life saving rocket at Queen Victorias Diamond Jubilee Exposition and winning the gold medal to boot. This is an old English made Schermuly Line Throwing Gun. This period of numerous rejections and disinterest, he dubbed, his heartbreak years. Eventually, early adopters began to step forward. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. Phone: (402) 740-7757 Seller Type: Private Seller Return Policy: 3 day inspection and return policy on used guns and accessories. Although the precise identification is a bit murky, this is a handsome gun, in excellent condition. Suggest it be merged in to Frank Zappa with a link from here?Billlion (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Given the generic nature of the page subject, is it appropriate to highlight this one historical incident so prominently? There were numerous signal flares, various uses for projected lines, and perhaps most pleasing to the inventor, several ways to aid seamen in peril on the sea, such as lifeboat distress signals and self-inflating life rafts that automatically fired rocket propelled lines into the water so that the crew could pull themselves aboard. Line throwing guns are still used to this day in the commercial and military sectors, and the Schermuly name remains closely tied to parachute flares. on our books page. Please use the print button in the share bar at the top of the page. The drawing allow you easily identify your gun with the one in the book. He also covers 11 British or Canadian designs, 9 French, 17 German, 4 Italian, 3 Japanese, 6 Russian/Eastern European designs, and 9 from other countries. Buy new and used guns or search for gun dealers and shops. Carried in a case along with its rope and launcher, this looked like a giant, mounted bottle rocket and unfortunately, utilized a cardboard-type paper case. It has a 9" Barrel with octagonal breech An excellent British WW1 brass 1" Mk. Also included is the tin case which measures approximately 19" x 7" x 25" which is complete with 4 unopened boxes of 250 1/2 inch line, 4 deactivated rockets, original instruction label and more! So only fair I give him a mention especially as he went on to invent items that have saved so many lives over the years. In fact, it worked so well that Schermulys grandson was often used in its firing demonstrations at only 8-years old. Besides, ship-borne lifesaving devices could also be used from ship to ship while at sea. IWM collections. Furthermore, firing was often done into the winds, which shortened the devices effective range and made precise aiming more difficult still. You can unsubscribe at any time. Lot includes the following BRITISH WW2 MILITARY ISSUED COMBINATION LINE THROWING AND FLARE GUN. after 1898 can only be shipped to someone with a Federal Firearms License (FFL). This rope could then be fired over the heads of distressed sailors in the water for rescue purposes, or fired at another ship, to attach bigger lines to be hauled back to the originating ship. $55.00 (View Picture), 21248 U.S. 37mm FLARES- COLLECTOR LOT OF 16 FOR DISPLAY - These are fired examples with the correct end caps replaced, so they are INERT with no live primers or propelling charge or pyrotechnic materials, and perfectly safe. But, the British Admiralty still didnt see a need for his line throwers. Product Information This is an extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistol fitted with an extra long barrel extension. His lifes work complete, he saved thousands of lives at sea, contributed to the seafaring life he loved so dearly, and fought successfully for new legislation to save even more lives. Furthermore, firing was often done into the winds, which shortened the devices effective range and made precise aiming more difficult still. Theoretically, the approval number should allow dating these to within a five year period corresponding with the date of USCG approval under section section 160.040 covering life saving appliances. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. In WWI the Canadian Army used them for projecting telegraph cables from trench to trench whilst under fire and a rocket that fired a grappling hook to enable barbed wire entanglements to be quietly pulled away also found some use. Multiple types of line throwing devices have been invented over the years since 1807 when George Manby came up with a mortar for the purpose of line throwing, followed by David Lyles cannons in the 1870s and shoulder fired guns by Ingersoll, Coston and others in the0s and later. When fired, the impulse ignition cartridge flash ignites the rocket motor and kicks the rocket out on its way. I was going to include the riot gun, not sure why I forgot! militaria page. Overall fine to excellent outside with most of the gloss black paint finish remaining. William Schermuly still envisioned a simpler device that eliminated faults in his design, which was not very durable, prone to cross winds, and took 5-10 seconds to ignite. One of those guns that isnt unusual in its appearance, yet performs its task in an unusual manner is the Schermuly Line Throwing gun. 12/7/2022, Accessories & Parts Sn 18196: 30 - 18196: 30 The fact that it remained in production through World War II is further testament to its reliability and necessity. The new apparatus would utilize the quick-firing, weather-proof projectile less effected by wind, as well as the far-traveling, easy-to-see, virtually recoilless rocket that wouldnt snap the lifelines. 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