I have some of the old 285 gr 375s. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Has anyone actually had bad results in the field from the NEW GS's? Their web site does not list the African Grand Slams, which IIRC were made with a tungsten core. but the bullet was Trophy Bonded Tip 180s in /06Sold 'em all and bought a bunch of A-Frames for Africa.Glad I found out in time.. The partition is one of the best dual core bullets ever designed. Grand Slam bullets are So will North Forks, Nosler Partitions, Barnes TSX, Kodiaks, Woodleighs, GS soft points, Hornady Interbonds and Speer Grand Slams - and if I missed your favorite bullet -it probably will too. All rights reserved. Grand Slam was designed to compete with the other deep penetration premium bullets of the time, such as the Nosler Partition. just sticking to nosler partitions for smaller game and barnesx for bigger at those speeds. Speer Grand Slam starting at $20 Optics Planet. the vitals, of course, but from there on a wide wound cavity is the ticket. The bullets listed in the Class 2 category can be deadly if Greater penetration is generally preferred lead core bullets, such as the Nosler Ballistic Tip, Remington AccuTip, Swift Scirocco and It's hard to be sure exactly, with bullet tips flattening, but each brand appeared to stay close to others in the same box. As a result, the Speer Grand Slam bullet is a bullet capable of standing up to high pressures and temperatures as well as staying intact after being fired at its target. There are bullet fads, just like there are fads in clothing or automobile design. I plan on using the AB for most of my hunting this fall. The bear snapped at the sting of the bullet then ran into a line of dark alders as the sun set. I still load them for at least 3-7mm Rem Mags. Hot-Cor All I can say is that the new Grand Slams do not hold up nearly as well as the old ones when shot into dry newspaper, which I have found to be a good test if you really ewant to stress a bullet. Then, took a turkey and a ram off the rail on the next two shots. 175 - 180 Grain. Mar 12, 2023. I hardly ever hear anyone refer to this bullet. 300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) Load Data. 270win 130gr bullet and h4831 go together like ice cream and apple pie. I suppose I'll just have to buckle down and shoot some pork this summer. For a while the Grand Slam was challenged within the Speer "Montana seems to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans" John Steinbeck. The I like to buy Speer's, and every year it seems they have the promo that they will send you card for 20% when you purchase over $100, they are already the least expensive bullets to buy and that deal make them very hard to pass up. in factory loads and to reloaders. Being a bullet guy, I wondered to myself why they hadnt opted to use a premium bullet for such a unique opportunity. One of the best reloading investments I've ever made was a Stoney point OAL tool and comparator kit. Small world - yes it is indeed sn 1200 - purchased it cheaply so no dramas on that - but will pass it to a gunsmith before it leaves England - big question does it shoot accurately. I just haven't bumped into or tracked one down yet. In fact, I'm not sure that they've ever had their heart fully into any sort of premium hunting bullet program, even now with their acquired 'Trophy Bonded' lineup, which seems to be very poorly and unenthusiastically promoted. The Uni-Cor method eliminates core-jacket separation by bonding the jacket directly to the core at a time, resulting in superior accuracy and durability. ------------------Victory through superior firepower! this bullet a higher ballistic coefficient (BC) than a flat base bullet, making With factory loads you can't taylor bullets to rifles like us handloaders, so quite simply pick whichever your rifle likes and know your shooting a great bullet that will get the job done. expand rapidly and destroy a lot of heart/lung tissue usually deliver the Here's the advertising blurb from their web page: sounds like they dropped the 416 & 458. correct me on this: weren't there two GS (the "African" which included solids and the "regular" in smaller calibers)? iffy on raking shots at Class 3 animals. Grand Slam has a crimping cannelure, which also helps to hold jacket and core New Member, I have enjoyed all the posts from the site and hope to learn more about hunting in Africa. are offered in diameters from .257-.458" and with various nose profiles, Comparing that jacket to the thick one in the GS, I suspect it may provide for a little more splash in the big lungs of some animals. RUGER: I just would not even bother to make a switch; I've lost count of the deer and elk I've shot or seen shot with Partitions, and switching to the Grand Slam would be, in my humble opinion, of no advantage whatsoever. flagship bullet. Its suitable for nearly all game animals that are hunted with soft-point (expanding) bullets, including feral hogs, pronghorn, elk, moose, bear and even Cape buffalo. From left: Nosler 180-gr. I used Speer bullets in my 257 years back, killed 2 of my best bucks with them, I wouldn't have any qualms about using them again. [This message has been edited by bulldog (edited 10-07-2001). I cannot find a definitive answer to whether or not Speer makes a bonded bullet. New ones are just to hard and don't kill as well also no matter what I tried they won't shoot better than 2 Moa. You are using an out of date browser. The GS of today is not the same as it was when it was introduced. This simplification 85% in ballistic gelatin at impact velocities less than 3000 fps. in the case of this example) and not under each brand of ammunition that uses them. You have entered an incorrect email address! Now it has one. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers. offered in calibers ranging from .243-.375". If you over-stress it by blowing the nose off the jacket, it appears to peel back like a thin jacketed Hot-Cor, rather than supporting the mushroom. also improved accuracy. Grand Slam is about twice the price of Deep Curl, which is very economical for a bonded core bullet. The ELD-X bullet is a technologically advanced, match accurate, ALL-RANGE hunting bullet featuring highest-in-class ballistic coefficients and consistent, controlled expansion at ALL practical hunting. ------------------My wife told me if I buy another gun she would leave me.I hope the door does not hit her on the way out!!!!! 190 Grain. A good part of the reason is marketing. That was over 30 years ago so whatever their production is now is likely to have significantly different results. The Deadliest Mushroom in the Woods has been Remingtons siren call since 1939. Bullets for Dangerous Predators (Class 4). Nevertheless, throughout the industry, the Sierra MatchKing still represents the benchmark by which all other match bullets are measured. preferred bullet and load for your rifle, stick with it. Trust me, the animal won't be able to tell the difference. Will Use GS for him when he runs out of TBBC 's Have never had to worry about the bullet when using Grand Slams. . For elk- accubond, or partition for similar price range. To summarize, Speer Bullets is the only manufacturer who can provide dependable, high-quality ammo for your rifle or handgun, no matter what kind of ammo youre looking for. Speer produces four bullet lines and there must be a reason for this. The Mag Tip is the SAME jacket as the Grand Slam, but has a one piece Hot Core poured in it. The grandslam is a rather blunt tipped cup and core bullet with a thicker jacket. . Hornady has some amazing premium hunting bulletsfrom the GMX, ELD-X to the DGX Bonded. . I've been reading at the twenty-four hour campfire a lot of guys using them with high degree of success. for a wide variety of game animals. Core-Lokt bullet, which is available in numerous calibers and bullet weights They kept our freezer full of deer and elk and I dont recall any failures with them. Both the NP & Accubonds hit hard, and are accurate, but my preference is the tip of the Accubond. Similarly, the versatile Nosler Partition bullet is a perfectly reasonable choice for Class 2 deer in .257 Roberts, for Class 3 elk in 7mm Magnum and for Class 4 bison in .416 Rigby. I have no experience with current production grand slams. factory loaded ammunition, as well as to reloaders by their manufacturer. I emailed Speer but received no reply. A proper big-deer handload consists of 120 Partitions at 3,078 fps with 54 grains of H4831. the "old and new" GS differences in mfg would be interesting to note. They are best hunted with frangible bullets I'm not sure that Speer has ever had their 'Grand Slam' program quite fully together. I'm a semi-professional tennis player for 15 years, and I can clearly claim that tennis court is my 2nd home. I for the life of me can't figure out why anyone ever picked grand slams today over any of the other premium bullets. Unfortunately Federal Premium bought that bullet from Speer and . Just after World War II . out back in 1979. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And why use a premium bullet if you don't expect some possible stress? of game, such as pronghorn antelope or Coues deer, at any range. was the GS made differently in the smaller calibers? Ive used the Grand Slam, in lighter bullet weights, as a deer bullet with nothing but good results. Another consideration is finding a bullet and load that your From coyotes to crows they were accurate and nothing moved after. Do you have experience with it on game? an interesting assessment! to Accubonds(went to 160's), similarly in my 25.06(went to 110's), because of the lead nose. Go figure. For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. The jacket was found right under the hide on the ENTRANCE side, but the core kept on going and exited. When using these bullets in a magnum cartridge, I do prefer a healthy amount of bullet weight to prevent premature breakup, but Ill certainly attest to dozens of whitetails that fell to a 165-grain Hornady InterLock from my .308 Winchester. 9 Feb 2019: 145 Gr Speer Grand Slam from a 284 Win, frontal shot, downward angle on smallish whitetail buck. While I am not a user of Nosler products, they stand on their own merit. Ballistic Tip; Nosler . on the far side has delivered what I consider ideal performance for achieving I shot a good size buck at 30 yards facing me in the chest. this issue is not that the bullet is worthless, the issue is that it is no longer a "premium" bullet like it once was. I switched to Grand Slams which had a flatter tip and never looked back. The Grand Slam is a Cup-n-Core with a three-part Lead alloy in the same tapered/fluted jacket as the SPEER Hot Core process. You must log in or register to reply here. Question: Grand Slam used to have two cores. selection runs from .243-.338" at this writing and will probably expand. The happiest days of my life were spent with Noslers (mostly Partitions) in my hunting rifle! GS is a bullet capable of shooting at a speed of 2740 fps when fired from a 24-inch Win. Actually, I kind of forgot this bullet, a 145 7mm from a 7-08: SPEER Grand Slam Premium Big Game Rifle Bullets. But, for the annual fall deer hunt, its hard to argue with the InterLock. Mostly 120 grain Nosler Partition but two rifles love those Speer's and one the 120 Sierra's. Good luck. JavaScript is disabled. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. "Actually" the Mag Tip is a better bullet than the Grand Slam. I bought 6 of the transparent yellow boxes (grand slams) to work a load for that hunt. The reason I ask is I got four boxes of the 250 gr. see mule deer's post above re: testing. A interlock and partition are not trying to do the same thing. Crappie Killer: If the partitions are not shooting for your, check the "runout" of your handloads.I'll bet that is the issue. for a little better BC, i picked up some of the ferderal trophy bonded tip bullets in 140gr and they shoot just as good. should add though that I like the Speer 350 gr 416 bullets. So it looks like Midway just isn't going to stock. I know that in theory, they are both designed to have a similar terminal effect (similar weight . elk. The Grand Slam is also known for its high velocities and its flat trajectory. I could probably spend the rest of my days using a Nosler Partition as my go-to bullet (except where a solid is called for) without much concern. I have tried to load partitions in several calibers and find accuracy below 1.5" is a struggle. Its been my experience that round-nosed bullets transfer their energy quite rapidly; you can almost see the animal shudder on impact. In addition, the Remington Core-Lokts price point is certainly attractive, and thats been a great selling point over the years. OK, enough of that rant. because I think the Nosler Partition has more than proven itself in the hunting world. At the time, civilian hunters/reloaders were unable to buy The bullets are also designed to offer excellent accuracy and consistency. It looks like I'm fresh out fo the AGS and the regular GS I have (285gr) are in the solid yellow box so must be pretty old. The Speer Boat Tail bullet is Speer's long range offering. Got a good deal so basically shot them of for the Brass. I have switched to newer bullets(Accubonds) (Speer Deep Curls) etc. No matter the powder charge groups range anywhere from 2-4 at 100 yards. JavaScript is disabled. A 225 grain .338 bullet is probably going to be optimized for use on CXP3 game, such as elk and grizzly bear. Wed spent the majority of the afternoon chasing the herds of red stag around the Blair Atholl Estate, for which Hepburn was a game stalker, and wed set up a perfect ambush. The new grandslams kinda suck. 175 grain for my 7x57 and 285 grain for my 375 Ruger. You must log in or register to reply here. In fact almost all expanding bullets open so quickly that for all intents and purposes they're fully "mushroomed" by the time the rear of the the bullet disappears into the skin of the animal. Bullets for Thick-skinned, Dangerous Game (Class 4). Does Proto make bonded bullets? Long before we had the modern match bullets that resemble a Titan missile more than a traditional bullet, the Sierra MatchKing was setting records. I just ordered 500 285 gr .375 Grand Slams @ 50% off, $.30 each. Some bullets, such as the Nosler Partition, are offered in many brands of FLAT SHIPPING! Surely one of you guys has Rifle and Handloader back issues all categorically bindered and crossreferenced for easy access. I don't know about the 145 gr. not remain intact if they hit heavy bones. 28 Nosler 175gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. Class 3 game includes such species as wild boar, red stag, elk, moose, kudu, eland, oryx I have some speer 7mm 175 gn grand slam bullets. Vernon Speer is really one of the unsung heroes of our current handloading nirvana, for sure. The Grand Slam's greater weight retention should deliver deeper penetration and at least partially compensate for the bullet's lack of sectional density. On Mule Deer I use the Nosler 165 BT Ballistic Tip with the same load I use for the Barns and they are right there EVERY TIME. Grand Slam is built with a heavy, tapered jacket up to The company is now owned by industry giant ATK, but still operates out of The Nosler A 130 grain bullet out of a 270 Win is certainly mule deer capable and will suffice for elk provided you dont try and break through the shoulder. The .257 120gr Hot-Cor, .257 120gr Deep Curl and the .264 120gr Hot-Cor are three that come to mind. Penetration, expansion and a quick, humane kill are characteristic of the InterLock. on Class 2 animals and "soft" bullets intended for medium size game are grand slams, but I tried the 175 gr in my 7mm Rem Mag. Partitions and the A frames don't fail to perform up close or way out there. Hornady 270 Caliber Component Bullets, 145 Grain .277 Diameter ELD-X, 100 Per Box Md: 27356. I recently bought some boxes of the Grand Slams off Midway, mostly due to price. Rich, what gun do you have in 7mm-08?Bulldog. why package the (essentially) same bullet in two packages? We aim to provide our visitors with everything they need to know about tennis, whether they are casual fans or hardcore enthusiasts. Speer's parent company ATK also owns Fusion, so that makes perfect sense. never seen much point in competing with your own product line and ATK has Many of the bullets listed for Class 3 game would also be good choices for hunting large, potentially dangerous predators, such as leopard, jaguar, allows Speer to compete with higher priced bonded bullet offerings from Nosler, I shot the bear with a Speer Grand Slam bullet. For elk- accubond, or partition for similar price range. here I found my 2002 speer catalog: it says "the AGS starts with a solid bar of guilding metal to for a massive jacket that is twice as thick as our North American Grand Slams" "A stop shoulder is machined" " multilock serrations". Take, for example, the popular Remington Use sandbags or a commercial rifle The few recovered bullets retained thier weight and expanded well. Their "heavy game bullets" are now all Trophy Bonded. In appropriate So far I've only shot paper and accuracy looks promising, especially in my Ruger #1 7x57. That is one of the virtues of the .375 H&H, good performance (especially on plains game) with heavier bullets of about any decent construction. Never recovered a bullet, all full penetration with decent sized exit, from 50 yds to 400. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. an interesting assessment! what was the cut-off date of mfg? The Partition used to be my go to hunting bullet for several years until I ran out of the batches that I had on hand. I bought a couple boxes of .358 250 gr SP bullets direct from Speer last fall and had them in a week. I switched to Partitions about 40 years back, and never regreted it. Of course in their case there it was one change after another. Haven't they also D/C'd the larger calibers ? Class 2 game includes such species as deer, antelope, goats, rose the respected Speer Bullets, one of the major U.S. bullet manufacturers. 6.5 Creedmoor 142gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition View Details. And, as I proved with that Scottish stag (in addition to a couple of good whitetails and a Texas boar that fell to a 140-grain InterLock from a Rigby in .275 Rigby), its enough bullet. Barnes, Berger, Combined Technology, Hornady, Nosler, Sierra, Speer, Swift, and Winchester. In terms of terminal performance, Deep Curl offers more core and jacket are fused at the molecular level. This is simply common sense. As such, it is more expensive than the other Speer bullets. I've shot a least 20 animals with it in Africa, and never a problem. looking at the expansion pics in the 02 catalog (obviously two very different bullets the NAGS & AGS) I'm wondering if I did not think of the AGS when I thought of GS and rated the new ones erroniously. The beauty is its simplicity, and I like the fact that Remington still offers a bunch of round-nosed choices for those of us who spend most of our time inside 150 yards or so. Ill be loading A Frames in my 8mm magnum. Bristol. Most noteworthy the nosler partition lately and speer grand slam back when it still had two cores. The current version is really no different, IMHO, than the less expensive Speer Mag Tips. Partition is the original American premium bullet and it remains a favorite of A This bullet is designed to be a high-performance bullet capable of dealing with magnum cartridges high impact velocities while still providing enough expansion to be humane. Sierra GameKing and ProHunter. I'll try more sometime, but I haven't found the time or need yet. I'm thinking about using some 145 grainers in my 7-08 this fall. appropriate choice for hunting whitetail deer, but not for hunting Roosevelt For deer ive had stellar results with the sierra gameking and nosler ballistic tip. Dress Shoe Tennis Shoe Combo The Perfect Shoe For Those Who Want The Best Of Both Worlds! bullets are already offered in .35 Whelen and .45-70 factory loads.) One expanded nicely on a jackal..leaving only the tail as my. plated jacket, resulting in what Speer describes as an electro-chemical bond. JavaScript is disabled. Yes, there are other match bullets certainly worthy of attentionthe Hornady A-TIP, ELD Match and the Berger lineup come quickly to mindbut I feel pretty confident that the Sierra MatchKing will be around for at least as long as I will. looking at the expansion pics in the 02 catalog (obviously two very different bullets the NAGS & AGS) I'm wondering if I did not think of the AGS when I thought of GS and rated the new ones erroniously. To better avoid jacket/core separation, the Boat Tail's penetration after expansion. bullets due to military demand. If you have sticker shock check out the speer grand slam. I don't know exactly when the 'good' ones were replaced by the new version. Speer prospered and from such humble beginnings rest at a distance of 100 yards or longer. GS bullets are capable of shooting at temperatures ranging from 275 to 300 F, and have a velocity range of 2200 fps. Today, the design has been changed to a lead core of single hardnessusing Vernon Speers HotCor process of injecting molten lead at 900 degrees Falong with a much thicker jacket. Many shooters use the Grand Slam for long-range shooting and for hunting. Speer Grand Slam bullets are designed for maximum penetration and expansion. The grand slam bullet is expensive for the technology. The 168-grain, .308-inch-diameter, boat-tail, hollow-point MatchKing, especially when loaded in the .308 Winchester, remains a major player. The Speer Grand Slam is one of the most popular bullets on the market. reduces penetration. Dont waste your money! I didn't think they would give taht kind of performance. 220 Grain. Naturally, any bullet must be in a caliber and weight Nosler was carrying a .300 Holland & Holland Magnuma classic cartridge with a hefty muzzle velocity, especially for 1946when he experienced bullet failure on a moose hunt in British Columbia. Despite their low muzzle velocity of 2782 fps, the bullets appear to have good penetration and . With a high ballistic coefficient, the steel-based Speer Bullet is known for its tough molecularly bonded construction. Interesting reading. 1) 7mm 150 grain Partition 35 count - $20 shipped to conusa. Lol it doesn't matter,,, try to buy either one of them right now. After talking to a few folks bout' who uses what bullet in there 7 mag for elk, the 160 nosler partition in federal factory load and 175 gr. $54.49. 210 and 225gr Nosler Partition 225gr Speer Grand Slam 230gr Hawk Spitzer Hawk Precision Bullets PRICE LIST 225gr Hornady interBOND . abandoned in favor of a monolithic lead alloy core injected into a gilding They are almost the same design, but the Swifts are bonded to the jackey, where the Noslers are not. Might I be confusing the AGS and the GS ? Back off of powder charge when getting closer to the rifling. A 100 grain .243 Core-Lokt would be an Impact velocity is typically lower at long jacket is made with a heavy heel section. tapered jacket that increases in thickness toward the flat base. I'm sure the GS are amazing, but until a partition let's me down I'll stick with what groups sub moa and kills fast. Bought some factory hsm loaded with 120 grand slams for the 257 weatherby. That being said, I have used the old style dual core GS on black bear several times with great results. These bullets are established game getters. The Speer Grand Slam bullet is an affordable, accurate hunting bullet that is well suited for use in a wide range of applications, including big game hunting. Plastic tipped, Nosler Partition starting at $35 Sportsman's Warehouse. My son uses 180 Gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claws(no longer available) in a 300 RUM on elk .In last five years all were one shot kills from 50 yds to 350+ yds. In recent years, the ammunition company Speer has come under fire for its production of the so-called grand slam bullet. The round is ideal for hunting or self-defense situations where maximum expansion is desired. Mostly because I have a slew of 285 grain GS in .375 and it seems like everyone has their own opinion of how they perform with all manner of caveats. Like the other major bullet manufacturers in the U.S., where deer hunting rules, most Speer hunting bullets are designed with deer hunting in mind, or at least as a consideration. Perhaps on the other end of the spectrum, John A. Noslers brainchild was designed to combat all the inherent issues associated with weaker hunting bullet designs. Speer is known for discontinuing bullets and they always seem to drop the ones i use. (Speer pioneered plating It wasn't long after that I heard they were changing them. I was running them at 3000 fps from my 25-06 and they were bug hole accurate. This fall I'm going on a hunting trip where I'll primarirly be deer hunting, but I will also be allowed to take an elk if the opportunity arises.Normally I use Ballistic tips or Sierra GK's for deer, but I want something a little stouter in case an elk happens to show itself.But I want a bullet that expands easily on deer as well.I've used Partitions on deer with great results, but I'm thinking of trying the Grand Slams out.I've tried them in different test media, and it seems to me that they might expand a little faster than Partitions do, maybe due to the skiving or fluting Speer uses.Am I correct, or is this just pure speculation on my part.I know the Partition would work perfectly, but I don't hear very much about the GS.Any thoughts?Thanks. The bullet features a copper jacket that is bonded to the lead core and a hollow point design that provides for maximum expansion. Now I am loading the current .277/150 gr. I recently started working up loads using Accubonds and was very pleasantly surprised with their accuracy. I quit using Nosler partitions years ago as the tips would get bent in the magazine of my 338 Win Mag just from the recoil of the rifle. (ATK owns both Speer and Federal.) Nov 28, 2009. 156. line by marketing Federal's Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullets under the Speer Interlock, or cup and core = deer of about all sizes, partition = bear or something thick enough to require more penetration than expansion. It uses a flat base and what Speer used to call a "mag-tip," meaning that there is no exposed lead tip unsupported by the jacket. Caliber and bullet weight figures into the design of all hunting bullets. Those projectiles were breaking up on impact and were failing to penetrate into the vital organs. Case length for the .280 is 2.540 inches (same as the .270) and a bit longer than the .30-06 (2.494 inches). I started reloading over 45 years ago with Speer bullets, before the introduction of Hot-Cor, Boat Tail, Grand Slam and Deep Curl, and I still use them. I much prefered the Grand Slams to Partitions, until the bean counters at Speer wrecked them -- Speer is basically calling a totally different bullet the "Grand Slam" and defrauding the shooting public. The The traditional cup-and-core bullets, if they are of proper sectional density, can work very well on African plains game. The velocity and sd are what kill with the 270. I used the old style Grand Slams back in the early 90's.They were great bullets.I've also shot 120gr Speer Hot Cores and 117gr Sierra bullets.I never shot any Nosler's back then,but they now have 110gr Accubonds,115gr Ballistic Tips and also Partitions.I don't have any 25cals anymore,but I'd give Noslers a hard look.I don't think you will find a better deal than this. However, its refined enough to give the accuracy and terminal performance that hunters desire. 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